The Truth about "Occupy" and Mormonism

This is a short re-iteration of the podcast. It is not as in-depth and it is greatly recommened you listen to the podcast for the entirety of these two topics. If you wish to dispute any views with Rev. Dr. Red, feel free to email or call us. We will setup a time when you can discuss this with him. It will be recorded and posted as a follow-up to the podcast for informational purposes.
Up first is the article. Second is the speech. Third is a short list of Mormon beliefs as quoted from their scriptures. And finally, I gave two links to resources used in the study for this article and the speech.

The Truth About Occupy and Mormonism
by Reverend Dr. Red Conrad, D.D.


Lately two topics have been taking up alot of space and time by the mainstream media, underground media, upcoming journalists, and bloggers. A few individuals and news agencies have gone as far as turning this into a debate amongst themselves they are being paid to force us watch rather than cover real news or atleast spew the facts about these topics. Since so many people seem to be so concerned about being politically correct rather than spiritually correct, i will fill in the blanks here. Mainstream media is spewing a whole lot of half-truths and all lies. I refuse to condemn Gods children, Christs brethren, to damnation along with myself because im more concerned with political correctness than spiritual correctness. Im warning now, what i have to say is politically incorrect, spiritually correct, may be offensive to liberals, American youth, and all the useful idiots out there. If you wish not to be offended, leave my presence now.

First up is this "Occupy" movement. Im just as angry with the corporations as the next. But siding with the government is not the answer. The big corporations own the government. Your man Obama was put in office by corporations donations of millions of dollars. Why? He is one of them. His policies are helping the corporations get rich off of our poverty. If your against big corporations why are you wearing name-brand clothing, excepting donations and food and supplies; from the very corporations you are against? The majority of these occupiers are 17-23 yrs old. They never had a job, never had to experience any hardship or responsibility whatsoever, and now they are demanding everything for free and wages of $20/hr to do absolutely nothing. And you morons are supporting them? How about they go out and look for work, pounding the pavement, start from the bottom and work there way to the top like the rest of us? How about that? There once was a time where you left high school and were considered an adult; you went out and did whatever job came your way; supported your family; and honestly earned your money with your sweat. And didnt complain about it.

What do we have today? A bunch of 19-23yr olds that know no responsibility, have their parents covering all their bills, no will to actually work for success, and are still considered to be children. What has happened to America?

Did you know the "occupy" movement was organized and is being funded by such entities as the Communist Party, MoveOn.org, SEIU, CAIR, ACORN, Democrat Party, among others? The Workers World Party is paying them $350-$650 per week for being there. This movement is in no way American. It is funded by Marxists and the Muslim Brotherhood. They have numerous occupations across America, and approximately 70 in other nations. More popping up everyday. This same so-called American movement was first in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, Iraq. Why would an American movement not originate in America? Do you recall what happen to those nations in the mideast where "occupy" was successful, and now happening here? All of our Allies and those in power that protected Christians and Jews in the region were removed from power. Afghanistan cleansed itself of all Christians. Egypt is now cleansing themselves of all Christians. Tunisia, cleansed themselves of all Jews and Christians. Iraq is cleansing themselves of all Christians. Need i go on? They want a 100% Muslim world. Right now under Assad, Syrian Christians are protected. "Occupy" wins in Syria, death to all Christians. That is a population of 1.8 million men, women, and children that will lose their lives by be-heading if Assad is successfully removed by "occupy".

Looking at "occupy" track record and those backing them, they are a very real threat to Western civilization. If "occupy" continues to grow and succeeds in their demands, we will have Obama permanently. Were you aware Obama is a member of and has a leadership position in the Muslim Brotherhood? If "occupy" is not stopped, if "occupy" succeeds here in America; i assure you life as we know it is over. Jews and Christians will begin being tortured and killed same as they are in the mid-east. In the "occupy" America, the U.S. Constitution will no longer hold ground as the U.S. of A. will be no longer.
Tea Parties and other Patriot organizations must infiltrate and hijack the "occupy" movement in America lest we watch America's death right before our eyes.

Now, as far as Mormonism is concerned i have the following facts to share with you.
Mormons believe God was first man and ascended to godhood after seeking it first; and that all man can become a god. Mormons believe God has a wife, therefore no need for a "virgin birth". Mormons believe in death they will become God. Mormons have four holy books: The Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price; of which the Bible is less revered as it is believed to be erred and inacurrate. Mormons believe the deed of Adam and Eve was not a sin, but a blessing.
If you google Mormonism and read there books, there is plenty more fallacies that could be mentioned. But i believe just going by what was mentioned thus far shows mormonism is not Christian, therefore being a cult of satan designed to draw Christians from God. Mormonism is not Christianity; A mormon is not a Christian. They claim to follow Jesus Christ, but so do the Muslims who say Jesus Christ is not the son of God. In the Bible, we are warned of false Christ's. The Jesus Christ of Mormonism and Islam are two of these false Christs we have been fore-warned about.

Im not telling you what to or not to believe. Dont take my word for it. Look it up yourself.


The following is an 86min. speech that encompasses this article, only more in-depth.




The following is what Mormons believe:
The Church has 4 Standard Works that are authoritative:  The Bible (in so far as it is translated correctly), the Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price.  Speeches and writings of the current president of the church are also authoritative.  The Bible is far below the other standard Works because it is full of errors (wherever it disagrees with Mormon doctrine).
There are many Gods. Brigham Young-Journal of Discourses 7:333 "How many Gods there are, I do not know.  But there never was a time when there were not Gods.
God the Father is an exalted man (a man who has progressed to godhood) with a body of flesh and bones. 
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 1973 ed., p. 346 - "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man...I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in a form-like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man."
D & C 130:22  "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's; the Son also."
God the Father became a God after learning truth, aggressively pursuing godhood, and being obedient to the laws of the gospel.
God the Father has a wife, through whom he procreates spirit children.
"Implicit in the Christian verity that all men are the spirit children of an Eternal Father is the usually unspoken truth that they are also the offspring of an Eternal Mother.  An exalted and glorified Man of Holiness (Moses 6:57) could not be a Father unless a Woman of like glory, perfection, and holiness was associated with him as a Mother" (Mormon Doctrine, 1977 ed., p. 516)
God is not a uniquely eternal being.  All spirit is self-existent matter and is eternal (without beginning or end).  Such "matter (called intelligences) sometimes becomes organized into a spirit being through birth to celestial parents.  Then that spirit is born through human parents on earth.  Like all people, God took this course and eventually reached Godhood.
God would stop being God if intelligences stopped supporting him as God.
(D&C 93:29, 33; Abraham 3:18-23; Mormon Doctrine, 1977 ed. p. 751)
Man was also in the beginning with God.  Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be"  (D&C 93:29)
Life, intelligence, mind, the 'light of truth' , or whatever name one gives to the center of the personality of man, is an uncreated, eternally existent, indestructible entity...In the first stage, man was an eternally existent being termed an intelligence...The next realm where man dwelt was the spirit world....eternally-existing intelligences were clothed with spirit bodies...numerous sons and daughters were begotten and born of heavenly parents into that eternal family in the spirit world" (The Gospel Through the ages, pp.126-127)
"...these spirit children were organized, possessing divine, eternal, and godlike attributes, inherited from their Heavenly Father and Mother.  There in the spirit world they were reared to maturity, becoming grown spirit men and women prior to coming upon this earth" (The Gospel Through the Ages, p. 127).
"Jesus is man's spiritual brother.  We dwelt with Him in the spirit world as members of that large society of eternal intelligences, which included our Heavenly Parents and all the personages who have become mortal beings upon this earth or who ever shall come here to dwell...Jesus was the 'firstborn,' and so He is our eldest brother" (Ibid., p.21)
Death and sin came through the fall of Adam and Eve.  But their deed was not actually a "sin."  It was really a blessing because it enabled man to continue progressing on toward eternal life.  "They (the Christian world) have been long taught that Adam and Eve were great transgressors...We, the children of Adam....should rejoice with them, that through their fall and the atonement of Jesus Christ, the way of eternal life has been opened up to us" (Articles of Faith, p. 476)
Christ's death on the cross (the atonement) canceled the penalty of death imposed on ALL men through Adam's sin, thereby ensuring that all men would be redeemed - resurrected and given immortality (the reuniting of spirit with body)-as a gift.
"If there had been no atonement, temporal death would have remained forever, and there never would have remained forever, and there never would have been a resurrection.  The body would have remained forever in the grave" (Mormon Doctrine, 1977 ed., p.63)
"Redemption from death, through the sufferings of Christ, is for all men, both the righteous and the wicked" (Ibid., p. 65)
"Immortality is a free gift which comes by grace alone without works on man's part" (Ibid., p. 377)



Here are links to two resources:

http://mormoncult.org/mormonism-vs-christianity.html

http://contenderministries.org/mormonism/comparison.php